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2:03 am
10/02/2009


gr8jrfan

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Game companies r so scared of MW2 that they push ther release dates into early 2010! voice ur opinion here if u r mad bcuz a certain game u wanted went missing or if u rly dont care bcuz all u need is MW2.

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2:06 am
10/02/2009


TomTom12992

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Exactly what games are you talking about? Because I dont know of any games that have been delayed due to MW2

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2:11 am
10/02/2009


gr8jrfan

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Like.. MAG, red dead redemption, bioshock2, max payne3, singularity, i belev lost planet2, and many others that i dont remembr or on difrent systems.

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2:17 am
10/02/2009


TomTom12992

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I dont know about all of those but I definitely feel that Mag and Bioshock 2 could release whenever and still get sales… so I think its just they want more time to work on it and stuff like that, and also no matter what games come out, everyone wants to release their game b4 holiday season. So I doubt MW2 has anything to do with these release dates

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2:29 am
10/02/2009


gow2rules

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most of those games were nether coming out this year max payne3 has always had a early 2010 to late 2009 release date , bioshock2 has being delayed as the developers were not happy with product at that time and want more time to perfect it

i do agree though with singularity but activision delayed it because it is an new ip and they did not want it to compete with bioshock but in the end have caused another problem with both games being released at similar dates

red dead redemption was delayed for similar reasons as gta4 more time to polish the product and a 2009 release was really not a fesable time for it anyway

and lost planet2 was never coming out this year


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2:31 am
10/02/2009


gr8jrfan

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maybe.maybe. but still u gotta think thats one of the reasons

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2:33 am
10/02/2009


gow2rules

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Australia

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gr8jrfan said:

maybe.maybe. but still u gotta think thats one of the reasons


you forgot bayonetta as its being delayed till early 2010 but releasing october in japan

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2:35 am
10/02/2009


TomTom12992

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Its a possibility but i can guarantee you that time will fly with all of these amazing releases that 2010 will come faster than you can imagine

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2:38 am
10/02/2009


x_D3adkl0wn_x

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i seriously doubt releases are being pushed because of any “fear” of MW2.. for starters, MW2 is a specific genre, and will mostly appeal to those who currently play cod4 and w@w type online FPS games, while Bioshock 2, abeit a FPS, is a totally different animal, and there would be no real fear of it having to compete with MW2 based on the style of gameplay and the people. hell even MAG wouldnt have to worry too much, as it is a larger more different play style than MW2.


as Tom said, any of these games could release now, or during the xmas rush and sell, its so funny to see people act like MW2 is gonna be the “be-all-end-all” game…

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2:39 am
10/02/2009


gow2rules

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we still have these games for 2009

-assassins creed2

-the saboteur

-tekken 6

-operation flashpoint

-uncharted2

-ratchet and clank

-fifa10

-pes10

-brutal legend

-dj hero

so no shortage of quality gamesLaugh

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12:55 pm
10/02/2009


W4RG34R3D_SN1P3R

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gr8jrfan said:

Game companies r so scared of MW2 that they push ther release dates into early 2010! voice ur opinion here if u r mad bcuz a certain game u wanted went missing or if u rly dont care bcuz all u need is MW2.



Its not that they are scared , face it MW2 will bring in the bucks , and the games you mentioned want that share . If they move to a time where it feels dead and there wont be that many games rolling in for a while then games like Bioshock 2 , Assassins Creed2 and Flashpoint could be those points to break your boredome .

5:29 pm
10/02/2009


ShadeBlack

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Post edited 3:30 pm – 10/02/2009 by ShadeBlack


okay i don't know about the others, but bioshock is on hold because the developers weren't happy sending the game out until they were sure about it.


im actually very happy they did this because it means they're devoted into making it a good game, rather than just milking it for money.

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6:40 pm
10/02/2009


The General

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ShadeBlack said:

Post edited 5:30 pm – 10/02/2009 by ShadeBlack


okay i don't know about the others, but bioshock is on hold because the developers weren't happy sending the game out until they were sure about it.


im actually very happy they did this because it means they're devoted into making it a good game, rather than just milking it for money.


Unlike Pandemic with Mercs 2. WOW!!! Talk about a steaming pile…

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6:54 pm
10/02/2009


barkiemailman

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x_D3adkl0wn_x said:

i seriously doubt releases are being pushed because of any “fear” of MW2.. for starters, MW2 is a specific genre, and will mostly appeal to those who currently play cod4 and w@w type online FPS games, while Bioshock 2, abeit a FPS, is a totally different animal, and there would be no real fear of it having to compete with MW2 based on the style of gameplay and the people. hell even MAG wouldnt have to worry too much, as it is a larger more different play style than MW2.


as Tom said, any of these games could release now, or during the xmas rush and sell, its so funny to see people act like MW2 is gonna be the “be-all-end-all” game…


Actually, According to Joystiq,  MOST of the games pushed back to early 2010 are directly because of MW2. I'm NOT gonna post all the links (as they are all individual news stories) but here's one for example


http://www.joystiq.com/2009/07…..o-q1-2010/


If you stay on joystiq. And keep clicking “Older Entries” you'll see a load of these stories…This one (as do the others) has a quote from the activision spokesperson directly stating they do not want to compete with MW2's release.

7:13 pm
10/02/2009


BigWoopMagazine

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ShadeBlack said:

Post edited 5:30 pm – 10/02/2009 by ShadeBlack


okay i don't know about the others, but bioshock is on hold because the developers weren't happy sending the game out until they were sure about it.


im actually very happy they did this because it means they're devoted into making it a good game, rather than just milking it for money.


My thoughts exactly, on that second line.


@gr8jrfan – are you some kind of game developer with inside information that would warrant such an opinion?  Quite a few of those games were slated for 2010 from the start.  MAG certainly needs some work (although it is shaping up to be a great game), Bioshock 2 will most likely blow MW2 right out of the water, Max Payne 3 was always slated for 2010, and Lost Planet 2 will be out December '09.  Just because one developer admitted they fear the competition of MW2 does not mean they all think that.  Frankly, it was stupid of them to admit that.  It says “our game is no where near as good as MW2″.  If they don't have confidence that their game is good enough to compete, then why are they even bothering to make it?  Frankly, any game thats pushing past the holiday season is missing a great opportunity to make sales, regardless of the competition.  The only reason any of them should do that is if the game is simply not ready.  Plus, game delays is nothing new to this industry.  It happens constantly, and there isn't any more now than there were in the past several years.

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8:22 pm
10/02/2009


barkiemailman

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Yo BigWoop, You totally ignored my post man! I agree with you though. I'm sure that not everyone is ONLY allowed to get 1 game for christmas and therefore they will buy MW2 and nothing else. I'm also sure there are loads of people that don't want MW2 and wanted other games for christmas that they now, cannot have. 


Just check out that link I posted and read the article and check the rest of the site if you want. gr8jrfan's initial post that started this topic is correct (probably not the examples he listed later) but it is crazy how many companies have delayed their games specifically because of MW2 or other “heavy competition” this season.

8:54 pm
10/02/2009


redbren

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It's just a sensible business move. Some of ye complain that IW shouldn't have raised the retail price of MW2 that they're just squeezing money out of us but face it MW2 is going to sell by the millions. Not to mention Assassin's Creed 2, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves or Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time. So you would want your game that hasn't been getting a huge amount of hype to do well. In my opinion though is that by delaying all these games it's not really going to help developer's games against the likes of God of War III, Bioshock 2, Gran Turismo 5 any better than it would do against the games I mentioned before.

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9:42 pm
10/02/2009


BigWoopMagazine

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@barkiemailman – I didn't mean for it to come off that way, but I did read that article.  The developer I referred to as admitting to fearing the competition was the guys creating Singularity.  I'm really dissapointed that they say this, because I had high hopes for this game.  It looks like they have a good concept to add to the already saturated FPS genre, and thats what its going to take to make it in this market and not get shut out by MW2.  However, when they say they need to delay the game because of MW2, I fear it will go the way of Fracture, where they have a good concept that is poorly executed.  If their gameplay is solid, and the time shifting ability is fully integrated with the enemies, environment, and story, they should have everything they need to put out a great game and make the sales.  With that statement though, I become very skeptical of their product.  It screams “this is half assed, and we're gonna wait until its less obvious”.

BTW, I didn't see the previous articles regarding other developers admitting to the fear of competition.  How do I get to those?

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9:45 pm
10/02/2009


parnakas

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Ok, MW2, Assassins Creed 2, Uncharted 2, will all get MASSIVE sales. 

Most games got pushed back, because the developers just wanted to work on their games more (which they should). 

Some games got delayed in order to avoid the “crowded 2009 lineup” but now have made the 2010 lineup even more crowded… quite sad. 

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9:46 pm
10/02/2009


parnakas

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Ok, MW2, Assassins Creed 2, Uncharted 2, will all get MASSIVE sales. 

Most games got pushed back, because the developers just wanted to work on their games more (which they should). 

Some games got delayed in order to avoid the “crowded 2009 lineup” but now have made the 2010 lineup even more crowded… quite sad. 

“Pull the pins, Save your grace. Mark these words, On his grave.” …………….. - The Mars Volta: Televators

 
 

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