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2:52 am
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jogon15
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its in the name …… I am bored….. discuss awesomeness of ireland compared to other countries
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2:32 pm
11/05/2010
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Doc-B
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Machinetti – “Hey Doc u Talk with da Hand U NO Good u vant daddy pet u shiny boyskin mmmmm daddy make doc sleep clean 2night.”
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3:35 pm
11/05/2010
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Oz-Metalhead
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4:38 pm
11/05/2010
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Ninjacat
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YLOD is not a funny thing.
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5:18 pm
11/05/2010
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XeroTheGreat
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We appreciate the input, but at least make the subject interesting/worthwhile…
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5:47 pm
11/05/2010
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Knoxie
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cmon England! 
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Ohhhhh Coloccini, when you captain The Mags, oh Coloccini, you will get plenty of shags, oh Coloccini, my mam’s joining the queue! (8) … PSN – NuFc_kNoXiE_KiLa … XBL Gamertag – iNUFC iKnoxie
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6:02 pm
11/05/2010
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emdeepee
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Post edited 5:10 pm – 11/05/2010 by emdeepee
“On the seventh day the Lord rested, but before that he did, he squatted over the side of England and what came out of him…. was Ireland”. – William “Bill The Butcher” Cutting. (Gangs of New York – 2002)
Cymru Am Byth
Edit: The above quote is meant as a lighthearted joke before anyone starts getting pissy. I stand by my Celtic brothers!!!
Bill the Butcher is still awesome though!!
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There’s no cure for being a cunt – Bronn
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7:13 pm
11/05/2010
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I773D33MABL3
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Shite broadband FTW
Miserable weather FTW
Redundant language FTW
Mail order black spot FTW
Backwards mentality FTW
Potholes FTW
Inbred farmers FTW
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If I have learned anything from my time working in the service industry it’s that for quite a few people, the basic theories behind the use of a toilet are absolute mysteries…
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7:58 pm
11/05/2010
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Doc-B
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Machinetti – “Hey Doc u Talk with da Hand U NO Good u vant daddy pet u shiny boyskin mmmmm daddy make doc sleep clean 2night.”
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7:58 pm
11/05/2010
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Doc-B
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Machinetti – “Hey Doc u Talk with da Hand U NO Good u vant daddy pet u shiny boyskin mmmmm daddy make doc sleep clean 2night.”
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8:47 pm
11/05/2010
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jenkem_addict88
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any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book…..so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in ”fairytales” make me sick
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Only When We Run Out of Oil, Will People Realize We Cannot Eat Money. If You fall into That Category, Then Congratulations! Your Gonna Die!
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9:05 pm
11/05/2010
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redbren
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Post edited 8:12 pm – 11/05/2010 by redbren
yaa man Ireland FTW
Gaelic Football FTW
Hurling FTW
Connemara women FTW
Shite and Feck FTW
Father Ted FTW
Hardy Bucks FTW
6 Nations Grand Slam Champions FTW
Is aoibheann liom Eire.
@ irredemable
ya man my broadband is like 1 MB 
Potholes?? they suck man. Where do you live? I live in the wilds of Connemara and the roads are pure shite.
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10:02 pm
11/05/2010
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I773D33MABL3
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jenkem_addict88 said:
any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book…..so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in ”fairytales” make me sick
Ooooh, careful man. That is one bitter can of worms you're opening. Don't get me wrong, as a “devout” atheist myself I couldn't agree more on the topic of religious divisions but the problems between the North and South are a lot more complex. There's massive political and social reasons behind the split. Religious segregation was just one of the euphemisms people used to paste over blatant racism.
@Redbren
I live in Ennis, in Clare. One seriously introverted and inbred dump of a town. I'm from Dublin and I can't wait to get back there.
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7:03 am
11/06/2010
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jenkem_addict88
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I773D33MABL3 said:
jenkem_addict88 said:
any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book…..so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in ”fairytales” make me sick
Ooooh, careful man. That is one bitter can of worms you're opening. Don't get me wrong, as a “devout” atheist myself I couldn't agree more on the topic of religious divisions but the problems between the North and South are a lot more complex. There's massive political and social reasons behind the split. Religious segregation was just one of the euphemisms people used to paste over blatant racism.
@Redbren
I live in Ennis, in Clare. One seriously introverted and inbred dump of a town. I'm from Dublin and I can't wait to get back there.
dude the school systems where im from (and my state oklahoma in particular where we rank 49th out of 50th in education) are incredably shoddy. I took a cultural geography class this semester and when we dicussed N Ireland it was pretty myuch told to us that the protestant/catholic thing was the whole reason….so what are these reasons you speak of? I'd love to be able to rattle off all kinds of shit to my teacher over the subject, as she is the worst professor in history. Seriously. (imagine a class where the whole point is to teach ignorant ass people how to be tolerant of other people….by an obviously staunch republican.) i try to learn someting every day, especially social and/or economic things, because watching the news nodays = you getting fed whatever someone esle wants you to hear. So if someone could prplerly educate me on the topic with an unbiased opinion, i would be greatful.
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Only When We Run Out of Oil, Will People Realize We Cannot Eat Money. If You fall into That Category, Then Congratulations! Your Gonna Die!
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9:26 am
11/06/2010
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mason1182
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@Jenkem
I think it would be unwise to continue this discussion, the 3 topics you dont talk about in company are Sex(Only when drunk haha), Politics and the main one Religion. I dont want to sound like a moaner but i could see a lot of arguments starting over this, if you are interested in and want to find out about the above topics there is a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips called the world wide web.
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Of all the things I’ve lost i miss my mind the most : Mark Twain
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12:03 pm
11/06/2010
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redbren
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Post edited 11:04 am – 11/06/2010 by redbren
jenkem_addict88 said:
I773D33MABL3 said:
jenkem_addict88 said:
any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book…..so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in ”fairytales” make me sick
Ooooh, careful man. That is one bitter can of worms you're opening. Don't get me wrong, as a “devout” atheist myself I couldn't agree more on the topic of religious divisions but the problems between the North and South are a lot more complex. There's massive political and social reasons behind the split. Religious segregation was just one of the euphemisms people used to paste over blatant racism.
@Redbren
I live in Ennis, in Clare. One seriously introverted and inbred dump of a town. I'm from Dublin and I can't wait to get back there.
dude the school systems where im from (and my state oklahoma in particular where we rank 49th out of 50th in education) are incredably shoddy. I took a cultural geography class this semester and when we dicussed N Ireland it was pretty myuch told to us that the protestant/catholic thing was the whole reason….so what are these reasons you speak of? I'd love to be able to rattle off all kinds of shit to my teacher over the subject, as she is the worst professor in history. Seriously. (imagine a class where the whole point is to teach ignorant ass people how to be tolerant of other people….by an obviously staunch republican.) i try to learn someting every day, especially social and/or economic things, because watching the news nodays = you getting fed whatever someone esle wants you to hear. So if someone could prplerly educate me on the topic with an unbiased opinion, i would be greatful.
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My imaginary friend thinks you have serious problems
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2:36 pm
11/06/2010
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Knoxie
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gotta love father ted! could watch all of those episodes at once!
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Ohhhhh Coloccini, when you captain The Mags, oh Coloccini, you will get plenty of shags, oh Coloccini, my mam’s joining the queue! (8) … PSN – NuFc_kNoXiE_KiLa … XBL Gamertag – iNUFC iKnoxie
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8:22 pm
11/06/2010
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jenkem_addict88
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mason1182 said:
@Jenkem
I think it would be unwise to continue this discussion, the 3 topics you dont talk about in company are Sex(Only when drunk haha), Politics and the main one Religion. I dont want to sound like a moaner but i could see a lot of arguments starting over this, if you are interested in and want to find out about the above topics there is a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips called the world wide web.
I would do that, but between me being completely clueless over the situation and it being an incredibly touchy subject, how do i know what im recieving is an honest, truly unbiased opinion? like i stated i tried to learn all i could over the subject from my COLLEGE PROFESSOR and got an epic failure for an answer (according to you all) so i am just trying to figure out the “political and social reasons behind the split” Irredeemable spoke of.
If i even did start an argument, 1. the thread would get locked quick as shit and 2. it's not my fault i didnt start a thread over Ireland
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10:47 pm
11/06/2010
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Doc-B
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As an intellectual (tongue in cheek ) i fail to see why arguments arise in the first place… I know why they do of course, but fail to see why other people have to get so emotional about “words”.
But if you're interested in the topic it's prob. something you should check on the Internet rather discuss on a Ps3 forum?? Football threads are one thing but the religious and political history of Ireland might be a bit much…
It sucks for you that your collage is rated pretty bad… Couldn't you apply for a placement somewhere else?
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11:18 pm
11/06/2010
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I773D33MABL3
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@Mason
I think it's possible to discuss a bit of the history without getting into a fight over which side was right or wrong as long as we keep it fact related (no flaming!).
My only worry is the small one of my inaccuracy in remembering the stuff. It's been years since I studied this and Ireland has a seriously convoluted political history. I won't even attempt to recount it in detail but just to beef out my original point.
There is of course a religious divide in the Ireland but it was only a small part in the split. You have to keep in mind that most Protestants in the North were descended from the Plantations (British settlings of Irish land) and thus had very strong ties to to Britain. Many of them saw themselves as British and of course they didn't want to be cut off.
While they were part of Britain they were in the majority (both in religion and nationality) and that afforded them a lot of benefits, both in terms of trade and rights. At the time Catholics in the North were a minority and were seen as second-class citizens (problems getting jobs/education) with even a Protestant controlled police force keeping them in their place.
If Britain and Ireland had totally severed ties then that Protestant majority would suddenly have been isolated and would have undoubtedly suffered a backlash from the previously downtrodden Catholics. They would have lost their influence and income garnered from being in a privileged position due to their close ties to Britain. A double hit. And it wasn't just materialistic reasons, I've mentioned before their descendants and they were extremely patriotic.
And they would have got rough treatment from the Irish Free State as it was so heavily entwined with the Catholic Church. There were problems with religion (both practical and sectarian) and again of simple racism. At the time the English opinion of Ireland was extremely low (just look over the old cartoons that used to appear in Punch magazine) and the violence that had been rampant in the country didn't help that.
Now, of course, I'm speaking in general terms here. I don't want to infer that all the English hate the Irish or any shite like that. There were many English politicians that did their best to improve Ireland's state and invite Irish politicians to play an active part in the British parliament. And likewise, many of the heroes of the (various) Irish uprisings and rebellions were Protestant and had come from Britain.
Now that's off the top of my head and is scarce on info so if anyone wants to add to it/contradict it then fire away. I can't believe how much of this I've forgotten and my memory could do with a kick in the arse.
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