All PS3 Trophies - Topic: Ireland FTW

GHOST305 on Ireland FTW

Tue, 09 Nov 2010 00:17:29 +0000

Ninjacat said:

NuFc_kNoXiE_KiLa said:

gotta love father ted! could watch all of those episodes at once!

You could watch 25 30 minute episodes all at once? Shit, that's a lot of screens and DVD players in your house!

This was a joke right? I'm pretty sure Noxie is just expressing his love for the show and doesn't have that many DVD's and TV screens.

Ninjacat on Ireland FTW

Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:07:05 +0000

NuFc_kNoXiE_KiLa said:

gotta love father ted! could watch all of those episodes at once!

You could watch 25 30 minute episodes all at once? Shit, that's a lot of screens and DVD players in your house!

jenkem_addict88 on Ireland FTW

Sun, 07 Nov 2010 06:57:21 +0000

@irredeemable - thanks bro that was helpful. hope someone else adds some to it.....

@ doc - i cant transfer bc im poor and community college is waaaay cheaper than state college

I773D33MABL3 on Ireland FTW

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 23:18:11 +0000

@Mason

I think it's possible to discuss a bit of the history without getting into a fight over which side was right or wrong as long as we keep it fact related (no flaming!).

My only worry is the small one of my inaccuracy in remembering the stuff. It's been years since I studied this and Ireland has a seriously convoluted political history. I won't even attempt to recount it in detail but just to beef out my original point.

There is of course a religious divide in the Ireland but it was only a small part in the split. You have to keep in mind that most Protestants in the North were descended from the Plantations (British settlings of Irish land) and thus had very strong ties to to Britain. Many of them saw themselves as British and of course they didn't want to be cut off.

While they were part of Britain they were in the majority (both in religion and nationality) and that afforded them a lot of benefits, both in terms of trade and rights. At the time Catholics in the North were a minority and were seen as second-class citizens (problems getting jobs/education) with even a Protestant controlled police force keeping them in their place.

If Britain and Ireland had totally severed ties then that Protestant majority would suddenly have been isolated and would have undoubtedly suffered a backlash from the previously downtrodden Catholics. They would have lost their influence and income garnered from being in a privileged position due to their close ties to Britain. A double hit. And it wasn't just materialistic reasons, I've mentioned before their descendants and they were extremely patriotic.

And they would have got rough treatment from the Irish Free State as it was so heavily entwined with the Catholic Church. There were problems with religion (both practical and sectarian) and again of simple racism. At the time the English opinion of Ireland was extremely low (just look over the old cartoons that used to appear in Punch magazine) and the violence that had been rampant in the country didn't help that.

Now, of course, I'm speaking in general terms here. I don't want to infer that all the English hate the Irish or any shite like that. There were many English politicians that did their best to improve Ireland's state and invite Irish politicians to play an active part in the British parliament. And likewise, many of the heroes of the (various) Irish uprisings and rebellions were Protestant and had come from Britain.

Now that's off the top of my head and is scarce on info so if anyone wants to add to it/contradict it then fire away. I can't believe how much of this I've forgotten and my memory could do with a kick in the arse.

Doc-B on Ireland FTW

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:47:54 +0000

As an intellectual (tongue in cheek ) i fail to see why arguments arise in the first place... I know why they do of course, but fail to see why other people have to get so emotional about "words".

But if you're interested in the topic it's prob. something you should check on the Internet rather discuss on a Ps3 forum?? Football threads are one thing but the religious and political history of Ireland might be a bit much...

It sucks for you that your collage is rated pretty bad... Couldn't you apply for a placement somewhere else?

jenkem_addict88 on Ireland FTW

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:22:41 +0000

mason1182 said:

@Jenkem

I think it would be unwise to continue this discussion, the 3 topics you dont talk about in company are Sex(Only when drunk haha), Politics and the main one Religion. I dont want to sound like a moaner but i could see a lot of arguments starting over this, if you are interested in and want to find out about the above topics there is a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips called the world wide web.

I would do that, but between me being completely clueless over the situation and it being an incredibly touchy subject, how do i know what im recieving is an honest, truly unbiased opinion? like i stated i tried to learn all i could over the subject from my COLLEGE PROFESSOR and got an epic failure for an answer (according to you all) so i am just trying to figure out the "political and social reasons behind the split" Irredeemable spoke of.

If i even did start an argument, 1. the thread would get locked quick as shit and 2. it's not my fault i didnt start a thread over Ireland

Knoxie on Ireland FTW

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 14:36:41 +0000

gotta love father ted! could watch all of those episodes at once!

redbren on Ireland FTW

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 12:03:08 +0000

jenkem_addict88 said:

I773D33MABL3 said:

jenkem_addict88 said:

any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book…..so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in ”fairytales” make me sick

Ooooh, careful man. That is one bitter can of worms you're opening. Don't get me wrong, as a “devout” atheist myself I couldn't agree more on the topic of religious divisions but the problems between the North and South are a lot more complex. There's massive political and social reasons behind the split. Religious segregation was just one of the euphemisms people used to paste over blatant racism.

@Redbren

I live in Ennis, in Clare. One seriously introverted and inbred dump of a town. I'm from Dublin and I can't wait to get back there.

dude the school systems where im from (and my state oklahoma in particular where we rank 49th out of 50th in education) are incredably shoddy. I took a cultural geography class this semester and when we dicussed N Ireland it was pretty myuch told to us that the protestant/catholic thing was the whole reason….so what are these reasons you speak of? I'd love to be able to rattle off all kinds of shit to my teacher over the subject, as she is the worst professor in history. Seriously. (imagine a class where the whole point is to teach ignorant ass people how to be tolerant of other people….by an obviously staunch republican.) i try to learn someting every day, especially social and/or economic things, because watching the news nodays = you getting fed whatever someone esle wants you to hear. So if someone could prplerly educate me on the topic with an unbiased opinion, i would be greatful.

mason1182 on Ireland FTW

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 09:26:57 +0000

@Jenkem

I think it would be unwise to continue this discussion, the 3 topics you dont talk about in company are Sex(Only when drunk haha), Politics and the main one Religion. I dont want to sound like a moaner but i could see a lot of arguments starting over this, if you are interested in and want to find out about the above topics there is a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips called the world wide web.

jenkem_addict88 on Ireland FTW

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 07:03:23 +0000

I773D33MABL3 said:

jenkem_addict88 said:

any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book…..so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in ”fairytales” make me sick

Ooooh, careful man. That is one bitter can of worms you're opening. Don't get me wrong, as a “devout” atheist myself I couldn't agree more on the topic of religious divisions but the problems between the North and South are a lot more complex. There's massive political and social reasons behind the split. Religious segregation was just one of the euphemisms people used to paste over blatant racism.

@Redbren

I live in Ennis, in Clare. One seriously introverted and inbred dump of a town. I'm from Dublin and I can't wait to get back there.

dude the school systems where im from (and my state oklahoma in particular where we rank 49th out of 50th in education) are incredably shoddy. I took a cultural geography class this semester and when we dicussed N Ireland it was pretty myuch told to us that the protestant/catholic thing was the whole reason....so what are these reasons you speak of? I'd love to be able to rattle off all kinds of shit to my teacher over the subject, as she is the worst professor in history. Seriously. (imagine a class where the whole point is to teach ignorant ass people how to be tolerant of other people....by an obviously staunch republican.) i try to learn someting every day, especially social and/or economic things, because watching the news nodays = you getting fed whatever someone esle wants you to hear. So if someone could prplerly educate me on the topic with an unbiased opinion, i would be greatful.

I773D33MABL3 on Ireland FTW

Fri, 05 Nov 2010 22:02:20 +0000

jenkem_addict88 said:

any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book…..so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in ”fairytales” make me sick

Ooooh, careful man. That is one bitter can of worms you're opening. Don't get me wrong, as a "devout" atheist myself I couldn't agree more on the topic of religious divisions but the problems between the North and South are a lot more complex. There's massive political and social reasons behind the split. Religious segregation was just one of the euphemisms people used to paste over blatant racism.

@Redbren

I live in Ennis, in Clare. One seriously introverted and inbred dump of a town. I'm from Dublin and I can't wait to get back there.

redbren on Ireland FTW

Fri, 05 Nov 2010 21:05:53 +0000

yaa man Ireland FTW

Gaelic Football FTW

Hurling FTW

Connemara women FTW

Shite and Feck FTW

Father Ted FTW

Hardy Bucks FTW

6 Nations Grand Slam Champions FTW

Is aoibheann liom Eire.

@ irredemable

ya man my broadband is like 1 MB

Potholes?? they suck man. Where do you live? I live in the wilds of Connemara and the roads are pure shite.

jenkem_addict88 on Ireland FTW

Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:47:59 +0000

any nation that divides itself over religious reasons is not very cool in my book.....so would another point of this thread to bash N Ireland? hardship due to your beleif in "fairytales" make me sick

Doc-B on Ireland FTW

Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:58:49 +0000

I773D33MABL3 on Ireland FTW

Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:13:28 +0000

Shite broadband FTW

Miserable weather FTW

Redundant language FTW

Mail order black spot FTW

Backwards mentality FTW

Potholes FTW

Inbred farmers FTW