Re: Far Cry 3
I've played Just Cause 2. I don't remember my overall game completion percentage, but it's in the high 90's, because 100% is basically impossible. The point is, I've played it. It's still one of my favorite games, which is why I've still got it kicking around. I couldn't possibly make the argument that it's objectively better than Far Cry 3, and I don't think it is. I would say the music, sound effects, gun feel, gun selection, gun customization, graphics, story, voice acting, graphics, and animations are all objectively better in Far Cry 3 than in Just Cause 2. Speaking of weapons, did you just say Just Cause 2 has a better weapon selection? Far Cry 3 has every weapon Just Cause 2 has and more. Then you can customize each weapon. Just Cause 2 has the vehicle selection though. Although 95% of the vehicles in Just Cause 2 control like shit. I think the Cougar and the sports car thing were the only land vehicles that I could stand to drive. It did have jets though, which was awesome. The boats worked fine, too.
About the size of the map in Just Cause 2, it's big, but so what? 7 main missions and 49 faction missions in JC2. 34 main missions and 12 side missions in FC3. Just Cause 2 takes a long time to finish because it has a small number of things to do, then lets you do that same thing dozens or hundreds of times. Most (not all) of the collectibles are just a matter of going over and getting them because they're out in the open. That's what they have to do because there's just so many of them. It's takes a long time to get them, but the process of obtaining them is not exactly interesting. Far Cry 3 has a lot of hidden collectibles, mostly relics, that can actually take some thought to figure out how to get to them. And a lot of the times the process of getting them is actually interesting and different.
JC2 has a lot of racing missions, but since the driving is garbage, I wouldn't call it a good thing. Whenever I saw that I had new racing missions to do, I'd always groan because they sucked. I remember one race that has you going around the entire big island, and it was so long and boring and uneventful. The game had a lot of those faction missions, but they got repetitive after a while, too. The shooting in that game is not too varied or difficult or anything. It's like GTAIV where you're really only shooting guys because there's guys that need killing and guns will do it. The fun doesn't come from the shooting directly. You occasionally have fun moments happen that are indirectly caused by your killing of the enemies. Ragdoll physics and such. You can't really put much strategy into your assaults on bases since there's not a lot of variety in the ways you can kill people. I mean, there's lots of ways to kill in that game, but not effectively. I think later on in the game, it was just a matter of getting a helicopter with guns and mowing down the outposts.
So Just Cause 2 has a big world with lots of filler and simplicity strewn about it. You have to make your own fun, which I did gladly. I can see how someone can make enough of their own fun to like Just Cause 2 more. Like if they literally did not care about gameplay mechanics or story or characters or anything. I have the ability to do that sometimes. That's why I was able to enjoy Dead Island while so many others rightfully did not. I just don't agree with the sentiment that spending a lot of time in a game makes it better. I've spent way more time in much worse games than Far Cry 3. Dead Island, for example.
Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you that Far Cry 3 is the better game. I just don't agree with your reasons for JC2 being the better game. If you had just said you had more fun in Just Cause 2 or you prefer games with more game time, then I wouldn't have a problem. You make it sound like Just Cause 2 is obviously superior by a large margin. I think the length of Just Cause 2 makes up for its various gameplay shortcomings and Far Cry 3's gameplay makes up for its length. And if Far Cry 3's length is its biggest glaring problem, then that's not really that bad. It could've had a lot more problems like Skyrim.
In regards to the “Skyrim with guns” thing, I hate that comparison. Many of the things I've said about Just Cause 2 can be applied to Skyrim, with many more things left unsaid.