Re: Let’s Talk

KILLER369 said:

hmmm, i see what you mean, but the justice system in canada and america are alot more stricter than britain.

in britain, murderers get off with a extremely ridiculous time period, such as 5-10 years, they usually get out in under half the time. also for their time in prison, they have HD TV’s & PS3’s.

if a person has mental health problems and knows it then he/she should seek guidance and treatment.

this next part you almost definatly won’t agree with:

if a person is not capable of living in society and there is no help for that person and we can tell all this before his/her birth, then that person shouldn’t be born.

That's interesting! If given the opportunity to learn more about Britain's legal system I'd like to do so. There must be reasons affecting the time durations of prison sentencing.

As for people with mental health issues… the people who are mentally unstable are usually the last people to realize it. They can't help themselves because they aren't aware that there is anything wrong. For example.. studies on patients with schizophrenia. They literally have a break from reality. They can, see, hear, touch, smell, or taste things that are not actually there. But to them it's REAL. It's psychological and sensory. I can give you a specific example of a woman who was schizophrenic. Everywhere she went, she saw a clown, a man and a little girl 3 paces behind her. She climbs up to the 6th stair, looks back and they are on the 3rd. She climbs up to stair 9, they are on 6 etc. No one else could see these people. To us this may seem completely absurd but to her it was 100% absolute reality.

As for the last part… there is no way to tell who is or who is not capable of living in society before they are born. You don't know who has the predisposition of being a murderer. Or who has the predisposition for a mental illness. Also, think of all the other factors affecting an individual… maybe they are born with a predisposition for the aforementioned but during their lifetime they don't encounter the trigger to their predisposition. They are fine.

To give you the benefit of the doubt, let's create a hypothetical. Assume we did have the means to know who is unfit for society before they are born… and all who are deemed unfit are aborted. By what standard do you measure who is capable and who is incapable of living in society?

Think about this.. there is “no help” for cancer patients… sure there are treatments but no cure for say, cancer of the brain. Now we know everyone is born with benign cancer cells. And certain people have the misfortune of those benign cells becoming malignant. Would your abort before born theory extend to those individuals? Some may view that they essentially become an economic hindrance on society. Is that reason enough for them not to have life in the first place?

I personally do not agree at all (as you guessed lol). And I know the cancer example is extreme but extremities do need to be considered when talking about what we are talking about.